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i have been struggling on how to respond to this article. i certainly understand the frustration but find the students incredibly naive. i have seen comments harking back to the vietnam demonstrations which to me fail to close the loop-- what this lead to was a long conservative counter-surge which lead to reagan and ultimately trump. the columbia kids could seal

the deal for trump by generating ant biden sentiment which would mean the palestinian/student cause is toast--and no i do not mean of the avocado kind.

my final comment is that while i like tooze he is part of an incredible insulated elite--i was surprised he could find his way from berlin to columbia. he talked in his final paragraph about recovering from this shattering, brutalizing experience. From my perspective, the us in the last 10 years has been a shattering brutalizing experience which tooze seems to have missed by jetting around the world

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"i have seen comments harking back to the vietnam demonstrations which to me fail to close the loop-- what this lead to was a long conservative counter-surge which lead to reagan and ultimately trump."

Sorry, but this is just silly. Remember the Arab Oil Boycott and the gas crisis? Or the Iranian hostage crisis? Or Jimmy Carter's "malaise" speech? And yet. somehow, Reagan's election is due to student protests that happened A DECADE BEFORE.

It's simply the case that there are liberals who assume that ANY leftist protest movement is a disaster for the Democrats. Back in 2022, I remember hearing all the warnings that the George Floyd protests were going to deliver a HUGE win to the Republicans in the midterms. And then that didn't happen, but this zombie idea shambles on, regardless of what the facts say.

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