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Climate change is one symptom of the real underlying problem of overshoot. Simon Michaux’s work shows that we have insufficient minerals on earth to achieve the energy transition if we remain a 19 terawatt civilisation. Any growth-oriented vision is at variance with the reality of a finite planet. It is our entire economic paradigm that must be changed, not just the flows of capital within it.

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Only $4T? What a relief! Your comparison to America's nutjob-level defense spending was very welcome. If just 5% of the world can afford over $1T/year, then the richest 20% of the world just has to emulate that commitment level, and we've got our $4T without bothering the poorest 80%.

More seriously, most people think America is overspending by at least double on defense, with the bill coming in at about $7000/household/year, based on 130M households. That this is cast by defense defenders as "cheap, historically" only shows how *massive* expenses can be dismissed with a shrug by just comparing to the larger economy. (The Atlantic figured "Free College" in 2014, at $40B/year. Even expanding to $50B/year now, that's well under the defense *increase* of $70B in the last Trump budget. Free College would be an obviously minor expense for America, by the defense reasoning. The $70B went through Congress without much debate; Free College therefore deserves even less.)

But other nations have money, too, and if $4T were distributed against the billion homes in the top 40% of the world income distribution, just $4000/year. But the "developing world" isn't all that poor any more, either, and they can probably knock us rich folks down to just $3K/household/year. (I'm not imagining anybody cutting cheques, of course: this shows up in higher bills for utilities, steel, concrete, food(!!), and everything else.)

I repeat: $4T? What a relief!

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