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Newcavendish's avatar

Like the attack on the law firms, the attack on Columbia and, implicitly, all of higher education, is an attack on thought, on debate, on discussion, on advocacy of non-approved causes, on everything the Constitution is supposed to protect. I am very glad to see the strong and clear legal arguments made by the CLS professors. If the courts are made up of lawyers as opposed to partisans, these arguments should prevail, no matter what our Sultan and his Grand Vizier may think.

m droy's avatar

If only this were about free speech. This is about turning off the electricity, cutting off the water supply and blocking food supplies to Gaza without having to worry about domestic protests in US. This is the cover up of further mass murder.

Ealdwine's avatar

Every crack in the American system is being checked to see if it'll break. What happens when it does?

m droy's avatar

The free world (outside 5 eyes and EU) is watching in disgust.

China and Russia must be staggered - unable to work out if this is good for them or just disastrous for the world.

I have no doubt the left will be saying all the things they refused to actually say under Biden.

If only this were about free speech. This is about turning off the electricity, cutting off the water supply and blocking food supplies to Gaza without having to worry about domestic protests in US. This is the cover up of further mass murder.

Robert F Barry's avatar

Sir. You appear to be arguing that Columbia has a proprietary right to federal money. That strikes me as a weak argument. Better to argue that Columbia has cleaned up its act, if true, and shame if not. You often write on German history. Reflect, I ask you, Sir, on the purge of Jewish faculty and students circa 1930. Respectfully.

Kerry H Pechter's avatar

Bringing up old crimes and wounds is fatal to married couples. Same principle holds here.

Feral Finster's avatar

So how long do Jewish students get to take advantage of special pleading? How long does this last, and how does that excuse bringing up Israeli genocide going on right now?

Scott's avatar

And what of the universities responsibilities? Do they get to continue shirking responsibilities in the hope of bigger funding.... we all know their primary quest is for more and bigger money, not true quality education.

Kouros's avatar

The Federal Government, with its support of the Zionist led Genocide in Gaza, now starting in West Bank, and territorial aggrandizment, is in fact breaking international laws to which the US is signatory, as well as domestic laws. Stomping on free speach is another vandalization of domestic law, and the arguments of the new McCharists are thinner than a cobwed.

For what is worth, Columbia should pursue the legal route, to quash all the feds arguments, as not standing. The feds could of course keep their money, but their reason will be "because we want to silence people protesting against genocide".

Pinto's avatar

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles"?

So the Government has decided to turn off the water. Columbia probably doesn't need tax grant money (freshly minted in a near worthless agreement of unequals). Turn to your endowment. Dump the Feds. Go your own way if you believe that it matters. Struggle for the cause (whatever it may be). Columbia can't seriously argue that it has a right to funding because it gets funding or that the money it does get doesn't have to meet certain requirements. I realise that this "comment" is lacking the serious intellectual reasoning that that is generally associated with Chartbook (that I enjoy and look forward to daily) but then I don't hide my face in public (yet) and claim rights that I probably never had. Perhaps Ranjani Srinivasan has the correct, realistic and heroic idea? Run.

I am a "green card" holder. I have lived and worked in the United States for 35 years and believe that I have positively contributed to my community and my host country. There is not one minute in all those years that I thought I had the protections of The Constitution of the United States that are afforded American Citizens. Why should I?

RD Alcala's avatar

As a permanent resident (Green Card holder), you have the right to:

Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law.

Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons).

Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions.

You even have the right to post comments admitedly lacking in serious intellectual reasoning.

But you can't vote.

Millennialism's avatar

Does anyone remember when the Trumpy types were obsessed with free speech on campus?

Oscar Alx's avatar

The US for many years has been carrying out wars of aggression in violation of international law. Lately material support for genocide has been added. A few weeks ago, the president voiced grand plans for major ethnic cleansing action. Suppression of free speech is just par for the course. I only wonder, what will they come up next?

PD: I appreciate Prof Tooze's long standing effort to provide deeper insights into the major underlying issues. Chapeau!

Kerry H Pechter's avatar

Yesterday I clicked on a link that used to take me to a document inside the Treasury website... an old link to an old report. A long-standing reporter's resource. That link now dead-ends at the Treasury home page. Cyberdefense or an end to transparency? I assume the worst.

Perry Boyle's avatar

"If you take the King's shilling, you are the King's man." The Trump administration letter is, of course, outrageous (and, IMO, racist). But all funding comes with strings. We know that funding from Trump 2.0 will come with strings that defy the basic principles of secular humanism. The strings are too short. If you take their money, you are complicit in their regime.

Kerry H Pechter's avatar

As you know, it's not THEIR money. It's America's money. Administrations distribute the money as directed by Congress. The banks don't own it; the Fed enables banks to create almost endless deposits/loans. A misconception of our monetary system helped get us into this situation, and blinds us to solutions.

Seekonk's avatar

“If you take their money”

It isn’t their money. It’s the nation’s money.

Gary Harger's avatar

It's about time. Toe the line of give up fed funding.

RD Alcala's avatar

"Toe the line of give up fed funding." Malapropismically brilliant Gary.

Willard Moore's avatar

That's a little misleading, to characterize the Government's demands as "grievances from extremist alumni group chats." The Government's letter generally coincides with the proposals in the recent letter from 200 faculty members demanding that the University take action against the anti-Semitism they perceive on campus. And the mask ban in particular was the subject of a supportive recent column by law school professor Philip Hamburger in the WSJ.

THPacis's avatar

Yes this quote says a lot about the author. He must not like Jews very much. It is very sad just how prevalent antisemitism is. Tooze must be added to the long long list of Jew haters.

eg's avatar

I see precisely zero evidence that the cowards running US universities will do anything to jeopardize their sinecures.

JH's avatar

How can Columbia claim to be "autonomous" while also completely dependent on taxpayer money?

Kouros's avatar

Old McChartism, meet the new McChartism.